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阿里交互設(shè)計(jì)專家劉津的設(shè)計(jì)管理之路
時(shí)間:2019-07-29 10:11:35
文章發(fā)布:李陽
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今天這位設(shè)計(jì)師也是老朋友了,作為網(wǎng)易電子商務(wù)部UED團(tuán)隊(duì)的創(chuàng)建者,阿里現(xiàn)任交互設(shè)計(jì)專家,以及業(yè)內(nèi)人士鼎力推薦的《破繭成蝶:用戶體驗(yàn)設(shè)計(jì)師的成長之路》聯(lián)合出版人,老師的學(xué)習(xí)之路是怎樣的呢?來看今天的訪談!

先給同學(xué)們介紹下劉津老師:

2009年6月,成為中國移動(dòng)研究院交互設(shè)計(jì)實(shí)習(xí)生;

2010年7月,北京大學(xué)數(shù)字藝術(shù)系碩士畢業(yè),成為網(wǎng)易UEDC交互設(shè)計(jì)師;

2012年3月,組建網(wǎng)易電子商務(wù)部的UED團(tuán)隊(duì),負(fù)責(zé)該部門交互、視覺、用研團(tuán)隊(duì)的管理。網(wǎng)易多款產(chǎn)品的設(shè)計(jì)體驗(yàn)負(fù)責(zé)人。

2014年4月,加入阿里,擔(dān)任交互設(shè)計(jì)專家一職。

2014年7月,出版書籍《破繭成蝶:用戶體驗(yàn)設(shè)計(jì)師的成長之路》,業(yè)界好評(píng)如潮。


1, 很多同學(xué)都想聽您聊聊如何學(xué)習(xí)交互設(shè)計(jì)喲

答:初入行的時(shí)候主要是這幾點(diǎn):向同行學(xué)習(xí)(看書、同行博客、科技文章、關(guān)注行業(yè)交流及分享等);向同事學(xué)習(xí)(我會(huì)把優(yōu)秀同事的作品要過來,仔細(xì)研究學(xué)習(xí));向主管請(qǐng)教(不懂就問,保持頻繁溝通);項(xiàng)目總結(jié)(每完成一個(gè)項(xiàng)目都會(huì)總結(jié)、復(fù)盤)


2, 要成為優(yōu)秀的交互設(shè)計(jì)師,除專業(yè)能力外,還有哪些職業(yè)素質(zhì)你認(rèn)為也至關(guān)重要?

答:Open的心態(tài)(能接受不同的意見,尤其是批評(píng));

自省力;強(qiáng)大的自我驅(qū)動(dòng)力;

對(duì)自己有比領(lǐng)導(dǎo)和同事更高的要求;

積極樂觀;悟性高;擁抱變化

阿里交互設(shè)計(jì)專家劉津的設(shè)計(jì)管理之路-藝源科技

3,網(wǎng)易UED現(xiàn)在也是業(yè)內(nèi)的知名團(tuán)隊(duì)了,能介紹下它的結(jié)構(gòu)和情況嗎?順便說下您在團(tuán)隊(duì)中起到一個(gè)怎樣的作用吧

答:網(wǎng)易的設(shè)計(jì)中心2012年就解散了,現(xiàn)在的UED團(tuán)隊(duì)都是隸屬于各個(gè)業(yè)務(wù)團(tuán)隊(duì)。我們當(dāng)時(shí)的UED團(tuán)隊(duì)有交互、視覺、用研三個(gè)不同的崗位,按照不同的業(yè)務(wù)線又分為四個(gè)小組,每個(gè)小組都有一個(gè)主設(shè)計(jì)師,負(fù)責(zé)和業(yè)務(wù)方的接口工作。

我當(dāng)時(shí)的工作主要分四方面:一是管理設(shè)計(jì)師的整體項(xiàng)目進(jìn)度;二是專業(yè)方面的建設(shè)(會(huì)關(guān)注行業(yè)的一些新概念、方法,然后嘗試應(yīng)用在我們的項(xiàng)目中;也會(huì)開專業(yè)方面的例會(huì));三是招聘;四是考核。坦率的說,我那個(gè)時(shí)候剛開始做管理,沒有什么經(jīng)驗(yàn),做的也不是很好,更多的是一個(gè)“Manager“的狀態(tài),而不是”Leader“,而我的執(zhí)行力又不夠強(qiáng)悍,以至于對(duì)業(yè)務(wù)的貢獻(xiàn)度不夠,和業(yè)務(wù)團(tuán)隊(duì)的融入感也不強(qiáng)。直到后來去了阿里,才對(duì)管理設(shè)計(jì)團(tuán)隊(duì)有了更深刻的認(rèn)識(shí)。


3, 作為網(wǎng)易UED團(tuán)隊(duì)的創(chuàng)建者和管理者,您認(rèn)為一個(gè)優(yōu)秀的Leader應(yīng)該是怎樣的?

答:以前在網(wǎng)易的時(shí)候,總覺得把設(shè)計(jì)團(tuán)隊(duì)管理好就行了,沒有過多的考慮如何更好地和產(chǎn)品共同成長,做事情更多地是出于自己的興趣?,F(xiàn)在我會(huì)認(rèn)為一個(gè)合格的leader,不能僅把目光局限在自己的團(tuán)隊(duì)中,要放眼整個(gè)業(yè)務(wù),甚至整個(gè)公司。不要把自己當(dāng)作一個(gè)管家(Manger)的角色,而是一個(gè)當(dāng)家(Leader)的角色(當(dāng)然也看公司環(huán)境,創(chuàng)新型公司會(huì)比較需要Leader型人才)。阿里對(duì)Leader的要求是“創(chuàng)業(yè)、育人、傳承”,這也是我目前對(duì)自己的要求和目標(biāo)。


4, 當(dāng)您不滿意初級(jí)設(shè)計(jì)師的方案時(shí),您是如何與他們溝通的?

答:首先是講清楚他的方案有什么問題,給他提供一些建議。如果總是改不好,會(huì)找高級(jí)設(shè)計(jì)師幫他改。在這個(gè)過程中,有心的設(shè)計(jì)師會(huì)學(xué)到很多東西,并很快成長。而無心的設(shè)計(jì)師可能會(huì)覺得跟自己沒關(guān)系,反正完成任務(wù)了,那么慢慢也就會(huì)被團(tuán)隊(duì)淘汰了。


6,從交互設(shè)計(jì)師到設(shè)計(jì)Leader,您認(rèn)為最大的變化是什么?對(duì)此設(shè)計(jì)師如何做出相應(yīng)的提升呢?

答:剛做管理的第一年,我其實(shí)非常迷茫,不知道自己該做什么,怎么做。那個(gè)時(shí)候我覺得反正沒事情干,團(tuán)隊(duì)又缺人,先從招人開始吧,于是我花了很多精力去招優(yōu)秀的人,后來事實(shí)證明這個(gè)行動(dòng)是非常正確的,人才是團(tuán)隊(duì)最大的財(cái)富。一年后,我慢慢找到了管理者的感覺,能夠維護(hù)、發(fā)展一個(gè)二十人左右的團(tuán)隊(duì),但也僅僅是維護(hù)和發(fā)展而已,這離一個(gè)Leader的要求其實(shí)還差得很遠(yuǎn)。

在阿里工作了一年多,我現(xiàn)在逐漸懂得了如何在業(yè)務(wù)團(tuán)隊(duì)中找到機(jī)會(huì),通過UED的優(yōu)勢(shì)更好的幫助業(yè)務(wù)團(tuán)隊(duì)發(fā)展。真正的去開創(chuàng)一個(gè)有建設(shè)性的團(tuán)隊(duì),而不僅僅是“維穩(wěn)”一個(gè)支持團(tuán)隊(duì),我覺得這是我從業(yè)以來最大的變化。具體怎么做去看我的博客吧,那里面會(huì)說的更詳細(xì)一些。


7,說說你設(shè)計(jì)生涯最苦悶的階段吧,您是如何渡過的?

答:我的設(shè)計(jì)生涯經(jīng)歷過很多次瓶頸,尤其是越到后期經(jīng)歷的瓶頸越嚴(yán)重,時(shí)間越長。我最近的一次瓶頸長達(dá)半年多的時(shí)間,因?yàn)槲疫@次面對(duì)的是一個(gè)異常復(fù)雜的to B產(chǎn)品,一個(gè)創(chuàng)新型、處在探索期的產(chǎn)品(沒有競(jìng)品),周圍的產(chǎn)品經(jīng)理基本都是業(yè)務(wù)或技術(shù)出身。一是產(chǎn)品理解的成本很高,二是沒有人給我們提需求,所以很長一段時(shí)間我都不知道自己該做什么,該怎樣找到自己的位置。最近一段時(shí)間我才真的走了出來,我感到現(xiàn)在的我是一個(gè)全新的我,其實(shí)我的專業(yè)能力變化并不是很大,更多的是心態(tài)和一些做事方式上的變化。


8,您的博客非常高產(chǎn),堅(jiān)持了這么多年,您認(rèn)為寫作對(duì)設(shè)計(jì)有哪些幫助?設(shè)計(jì)師要學(xué)會(huì)寫作嗎?

答:說實(shí)話我不認(rèn)為自己會(huì)寫作。當(dāng)時(shí)寫博客一是因?yàn)槌跞胄械奈覐膭e人的博客上學(xué)到了很多東西,所以我也希望把我領(lǐng)悟到的東西分享給別人;二是因?yàn)槲矣浶圆缓?,總結(jié)能力又差,所以我需要及時(shí)總結(jié)幫助自己提升。而現(xiàn)在,寫博客已經(jīng)變成了我的習(xí)慣,每當(dāng)我感覺有收獲時(shí)就會(huì)記錄一下(所以如果我很長時(shí)間沒寫一般就是在瓶頸期),有些問題甚至是在寫的過程中逐漸搞明白的。我認(rèn)為設(shè)計(jì)師不一定要學(xué)會(huì)寫作,但是建議勤做總結(jié),什么形式都可以,這樣對(duì)新人提升非常有幫助。


9,很多同學(xué)都是看您的書學(xué)習(xí)交互的,能給大家聊聊您寫書的過程嗎?

答:其實(shí)從初入行到寫書前,我一直都非常忙碌,時(shí)間大部分都放到工作和學(xué)習(xí)上了。13年的時(shí)候團(tuán)隊(duì)已基本步入正軌,每個(gè)小組的主設(shè)計(jì)師也都能獨(dú)擋一面,很好的管理好自己的小項(xiàng)目,所以那個(gè)時(shí)候我沒有什么可操心的事情。但是我又是一個(gè)閑不下來的人,所以就有了寫書的念頭。非常感謝當(dāng)時(shí)我的好朋友江楚(hiued的組織者之一)給了我跟多的幫助和建議。她有非常豐富的培訓(xùn)經(jīng)驗(yàn),反復(fù)強(qiáng)調(diào)一定要寫的簡單、基礎(chǔ),這樣才能幫助更多的人,于是樸素、易懂、落地成為了這本書最大的特色。

寫書的過程其實(shí)很順利,因?yàn)橹饕€是靠日常的積累,另外我有一個(gè)好幫手李月,如果沒有她,這事肯定就黃了,因?yàn)槲移鋵?shí)還是一個(gè)比較嫌麻煩的人,但是寫書會(huì)經(jīng)歷很多瑣碎的事情。

阿里交互設(shè)計(jì)專家劉津的設(shè)計(jì)管理之路-藝源科技


10,如果回到09年,您會(huì)怎樣規(guī)劃自己的職業(yè)生涯?

答:09年的時(shí)候,交互設(shè)計(jì)、移動(dòng)互聯(lián)網(wǎng)、創(chuàng)業(yè)等遠(yuǎn)不像現(xiàn)在這樣繁榮,所以有時(shí)候我也很羨慕現(xiàn)在的年輕人,處在一個(gè)這么好的時(shí)代里。09年的我們其實(shí)沒有太多選擇,對(duì)于現(xiàn)在我也沒有什么后悔和遺憾,我覺得過往的經(jīng)歷都是最好的選擇。


1, 和大家聊聊您包里都裝了什么吧

我的包里只有手機(jī)、鑰匙、工卡、錢包。背書包主要用來裝快遞。


2,大家也想看看您的工作臺(tái)~

很遺憾,我的工位非常亂,亂到你無法想象。不過桌上會(huì)放很多很多的書。


3,在工作之余,您喜歡做點(diǎn)什么呢

閱讀、電影、美食等等,都是非常平凡的事情。因?yàn)楣ぷ髦嗟臅r(shí)間太有限了。

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